Anyone Use Dreamweaver or Fireworks?

freeosin · 02-17-06, 03:52 PM

Does Dreamweaver NOTATE themselves anywhere in the code? Ex. Made in Dreamweaver or Macromedia? I doubted it but i was just wondering. I just bought the new VERSION 8 suite. Im not too experienced with Flash, but love fireworks' simplicity and style arrangements. One thing though, once you get used to fireworks you might hate PHOTOSHOP if you havent use PS before. I tried transitioning to it when i made the Kodak Calendar this year, and just ended up exporting my Fireworks .png files into .psd.

Paul · 02-17-06, 04:19 PM

I've used both of these, the only notations that get thrown in there are some of the javacript functions if you uses firework's for popup menus. All of the code is like MM_menu or FW_menu and occasionly I've seen a little bit thrown in the header but I think that was a few versions back.

Both of these are great programs, and I completely understand your talk about PS and FW. Being a web guy though FW tends to beat PS in the ease of use to create web graphics.

**Anthony** · 02-17-06, 06:34 PM

From my experience it's quite easy to open up dreamweaver and create a website from scratch, with no notations or notifications that dreamweaver was used to create it.

However if you do use a dreamweaver preset template, then the case may be that it has the dreamweaver copyright or some notation of itself within the syntax.

That being said, if you want something done right, use notepad!

Super Mod · 02-17-06, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

That being said, if you want something done right, use notepad!

I agree with you here. Dreamweaver is good for new web designers, but any seasoned web designer should be coding virtually from scratch. It's important, because web standards will become more and more important as the Web evolves. We're seeing this as more wireless and portable devices are being released.

**Anthony** · 02-17-06, 07:51 PM

Right you are Spencer.

Not only does it produce untarnished code, it allows you to properly structure, comment and fully understand what you're writing and how it will display.

Josie · 02-25-06, 07:23 PM

I'm someone who learned to code via years of use of Dreamweaver and I must say I'm still partial to the program (especially the Macromedia help and forums area if I'm stuck!). I also think it would be tough to learn PS if you've first been using Fireworks. PS was originally developed to do a whole lot more things than most graphic designers today need to know or would use. I still like putting alien heads on babies, like the tabloids do, though, just for a laugh now and then

My personal dislike is MS Word's way of converting a file into HTML ever since Windows 98. Talk about a coding nightmare! Microsoft inserts all this crap code in your documents, which don't usually screw things up, but are totally unnecessary. This really is building a whole bunch of website builders who don't look at the underlying code at all and a bunch of pages with bloated code that slows everything down. Microsoft isn't the only ones who do this of course - any WSIWYG is going to do a similar thing, but I really miss earlier versions of Word, where you could take a Word document, change it to HTML and you'd get a great page with little extra coding. Ah, those were the days! Notepad does indeed still rule!

st@rsky · 02-25-06, 08:40 PM

I use Firefox on occasions, but to be perfectly honest, Photoshop wipes the floor with it..

Super Mod · 02-26-06, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by st@rsky

I use Firefox on occasions, but to be perfectly honest, Photoshop wipes the floor with it..

Do you mean Fireworks?

The only thing Firefox wipes the floor with is Internet Explorer.

freeosin · 02-28-06, 08:39 AM

hahah, i was gonna say. danng im missing out with Firefox haha.

ArunK · 02-28-06, 11:36 PM

I use both Dreamweaver and Fireworks.. Back in the day I used Frontpage 98 to make a couple of website but I switched as soon as I found out about Dreamweaver. It is much easier to use than Frontpage, which inserts all kinds of extra tags which get annoying after a while. Dreamweaver's template feature is also much better compared to Frontpage. I guess its OK for new designers who need to put up a basic site.